the fbi realized that and they shut down. and so the reporters kept going back to their resources who didn't know anything, and were still talking. the people who knew weren't talking, and the people who were talking didn't know. >> right. >> bill: the one exception, i any the whole outstanding exception -- in the whole mess was pete williams from nbc. and this really changed the dynamics here, because breaking news always turned to cnn, because msnbc, they don't have a news association, they just have talkers, but they have got nbc behind them. they have peter williams and other people out there, and at a time like this, i knew because when i was working at msnbc, we did the same thing, so you turn to your nbc people who are just about the best in the business. there are some good people at abc too, but nobody came close to pete williams and he was the guy that had it right every time. and nbc, their rule inside was we're not reporting anything until pete says it is okay. and he by the way was trending on twitter. >> oh, yea